2nd time's the charm?

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  • I am so sorry Maggie. I know you are so tired of hearing that. So tired of seeing the negatives, so tired of all of this. And I'm sure so tired of hearing "don't give up, keep trying etc." Well...sigh...I don't know what to say other than I'm so sorry.

    Maybe IVF is in your future
  • Hi Ladies, I've been lurking for a while since posting long agao. I just came by to say Best Wishes to all. I also wanted to Thank Tommie W for posting about the hybird cylce. I am in this alone. I will be having my 5th iui (i can't believe #5) next week.

    I responded too well to clomid and had cysts, so a cycle was canceled. I did one on famera and thought I was preggers.

    I brought the hybrid up to my doc and he agreed. I took my firste injection today and will have a follie check on Friday. I pray to have at least 7-8 follies. The cycle will be canceled at 9.


    Anyhoo ! Thanks Tommie and congrats to you and yours.

    I pray this is it as I don't want to do IVF.

    Best Wishes ladies !
  • You're welcome. Knowing is half the battle. Are you doing the Bravelle/Clomid?

    Maggie, keep your head up! It will happen!
  • Actually he has me doing gonal-f/clomid. I asked for bravelle but he said gonal-f does the same thing. I'm taking 150 iu a day.

    I am on 50 mg of clomid. Last cycle I did 25 and had 4 follicles.

    The shot I took yesterday was fine... today it burns. OUCH... and I'm not scared of needles. Thanks for the continuous encouragement and information.


    btw* I don't proofread...LOL and I'm a techer (teacher) lol.
  • side note... OMG!!!? I was so EMOTIONAL this morning. I was bawling like a baby and wondering what in the world is with me.

    I was crying about all kinds of stuff.. serious non-serious and then it donned on me that these meds are doing a number on me.

    I was in a woe is me mind set. I'm better now...
    but then again I just took the shot.

    **my sis says wait till i'm preggers** hormones will be twice as worse. WOWzers !
  • LOL! You are funny! Are you on the fb group? There's always lots of good info on there...you can find us there too
  • Ok. I'll have to join then. Thanks.


    Well, I got the scan yesterday and didn't have to pay. YEAH ! Since this is my 5th iui and I think my doctor and nurse see that I am going this alone and have shelled out over $6,000 from the procedure, meds, visits, ultrasounds, parking and etc. They wanted to help me out; and for that I am grateful.

    I wanted to give them a Christmas present, but heck most of my monies went to meds !

    Well, my doctor was delighted to know that I have 8 follicles... He told me at 9 he would cancel, because neither one of us wanted to be on the news. LOL

    I prayed about it and God gave me 8 ! I'm ok with twins, and actually it would be great as long as my health and the babies' health are jeopordized.

    The numbers are:

    Right ovary

    22.6
    21.4
    17.6
    16.1

    Left ovary

    14.7
    14.9
    19.3
    11.9 * slow poke


    I triggered last night at 11:00 and have no idea what time I go in tomorrow, since the nurses weren't there yesterday. I'm trying to go at least 39 hours after since time before last he said I hadn't ovulated at 36 hours, but was in the process of ovulating.

    He said it was good for the sperm to wait on the egg and not the other way around. But it ended up in a BFN.


    I pray that this one ends up a success all the way through.

    Best wishes to all !

    *this is unedited so please pardon typos and grammatical errors
  • Are=are NOT
  • Wow, that's awesome! So you for sure have 5 great sized follies but atleast 2 more will be a descent size when you get the IUI. Our IUI's were always timed at about 39 hours after we triggered. Worked for us the third time!

    That's insane that 50mg of clomid gave you 8 follies!!!! Wish it was that easy for us!

    Well I'm sending baby dust your way - hope you get that positive in two weeks!!!!!! Look us up on fb if ya want
  • Thanks ! I pray that it works.

    You guys did good and have helped so many others including me.

    I will look you guys up on fb and will join the group. I need to make another page because no one else knows what I'm actually doing except for my EXTREMELY close friends that used CCB with their partners.

    All the others know I'm seeing someone, but don't know that he and I really aren't intimate (we're not that serious yet). But when I come up preggers they'll think of him. Not sure what I'm going to tell him yet.

    I'm going to see if my screenname is avaiable and will join in.

    I'm a bit bumbed because I took the trigger at 11 last night thinking they would schedule the iui at the time they always do, so that would give me 39 hr after ovulation.

    The regular nurse wasn't in today, so I have it scheduled at about 10 ish. I'm not a happy camper. BUT... that time would put me at 35 hours. my Doctor told me to trigger at 8 or 10 last night, but I was too caught up with David Letterman and forgot.

    Going to set up page fb now. Thanks !
  • Does your bf know you are trying to get pregnant? That will be interesting...to say the least!

    Yeah I would be a little sad about 35 hours but not terribly...our office always ran late - by the time we inseminated it was usually an hour to an hour and a half after our appt time - which would always put us at 39ish hours.
  • NOT ! He's really not my boyfriend, just dating here and there. Yep... It should be quite interesting when I tell him I'm preggers.

    My sister said she will be in tears of joy and have a box of popcorn with her while she watches how it unfolds.

    I'm 40 yrs old and so I don't have time to waste.

    I was determined to have my iui between 36-39 hrs. Mission accomplished. It wasn't intentional at first, but I lost car keys and then dwadled after that. It worked out perfectly.

    I think my doctor prayed for me. I know the nurse did. She hugged me and said I hope it works this time. I shed a tear.

    This insemination took about 7 minutes to do. I think he placed the sample in really slow. I was thinking "what is taking so darn long?"

    btw I'm on FB... but I clearly don't know what I am doing. I went to the page... befriended Aurora?

    What's next? Am I even on the correct page?

    I'm so S-L-O-W.

    I'm under GiftsJoy

    Thanks !
  • I'm very sad you have disappeared Maggie! I hope all is well.
  • All is as well as to be expected I guess. So frustrated, so tired. After failure #7 I've inquired about IVF. I'm not too hopeful about it as we don't want to pay out of pocket and would rely heavily on insurance. That's what we're waiting on. To hear how much, if any of it is covered. It's sooooo expensive. I know it will bump our odds up tremendously so I just have to know if we can do it. It takes a while for the devil, uh, I mean insurance companies to formally decide whether or not they are going to cover something like this for someone like me so we shall wait and see. I hope they don't waste too much of our time jerking us around. We're out of vials and if IVF is a no-go then we'll go back to plugging along with IUIs. Can't buy vials till we know for sure since we won't know which kind to buy and OF COURSE we'll have to pick a new donor because OF COURSE they're all sold out.

    All we want is to start a family. Move on from this black cloud. In the big scheme of things it's not too much to ask, right?
  • Sigh, that is horrible and I am so sorry you are having to go through this to have a familiy. I agree, this is something everyone should be able to have.


    I hope your insurance company makes it snappy and pays for it!

    Keep us updated!

    Natalie and Tommie
  • I know it hasn't been very long yet but I've already waited 1 rest cycle and wish they'd just sh** or get off the pot for cryin' out loud! I feel helpless with all this waiting. If they're gonna turn me down over the whole '6 months of unprotected sex' reason I wish they'd just tell me so we can move on to regular IUIs. Seven failed IUIs HAS to count for SOMETHING, right? If everything falls into place, either way with another IUI or IVF approval, it looks like I won't have either procedure done until about the last week of March. It feels soooo far away. My eggs aren't gettin' any younger over here people!!!

    On the upside, if I get to try then AND it takes, we'll have a Christmas baby!
  • You have to have 6 months of unprotected sex and not get pregnant in order to qualify for IVF??? So basically lesbians can not qualify for the IVF is what you're saying? We kinda ran into something like that in our insurance with the pre US of every cycle because we were using donor sperm.

    I pray that you get pregnant and everything works out for you guys every night! You guys are always on our minds.....
  • Basically, yes. For women 35 or older, its a YEAR if under 35. I just turned 36 a couple months ago. It seems to me that 7 failed IUIs would be more than equivalant, but we'll see. Bad news is I've found out that there's a $5k lifetime coverage cap for infertility. Whether or not they approve me it still looks like it will actually be cheaper to go with the non-insurance discount to pay out of pocket for IVF. That would wipe our savings clean and we're not sure if we wanna do that, we need to buy a house this year. We are still struggling with the decision of how to move forward.

    Thank you so much for your prayers and good thoughts. Since we've told no one of this journey it's nice to have someone else on our side. It means a lot...
  • Do your doctors offer up any explanations for it not working????????????
  • We've been asking that same question... playing a bit of phone tag right now. I may have to schedule a sit down...

    Funny, I've gone back on this 'blog' and early on you said that 'you wish you were in our shoes' because we tried a cycle before you did and ended up prego the first try. That role is def reversed now! We totally wish we were in YOUR shoes! Enjoy every single second of it!!!
  • Yeah we have talked about that many times...it's just not fair that you have had to go through all of this.

    Have you tried switching doctors? Maybe a change can bring new insight?
  • Wrote down all my questions and the RE has answered them. I feel more informed now but we're still talking out this decision. It's a lot of money and we're not taking it lightly.

    I think fairness flew out the window months ago! I know couples who are just kinda on the fence about having children and are taking their situation for granted without even knowing it. Babies seem to be all around us. Casual comments sting.

    We like our doctor. I believe he knows his stuff. There aren't a ton of REs to choose from in our area and people actually come from neighboring states to see him. Combine that with insurance acceptance and our pool shrinks even more. I was willing to go outside of network for the best but he is already in my network!

    Sorry about your baby shower :( Who knows who will be supporting us on this journey. What people say and do can be two different things. I feel like once the preggo news is out we'll see who's left standing...
  • Where are you guys from? We didn't have but one choice for an RE and thank God he was highly recommended.

    I'm glad you got some good information - that is important too so you can make good decisions about what's going on as well with the dr instead of them making all the decisions for you. I believe it's equally important to know what's going on.

    Some people have discussed a partial IVF or something along those lines, and that it costs around 3500 bucks a cycle. I think IVF runs about 10k if i'm not mistaken. Maybe that's another avenue as well?

    Well if you even need someone to talk to you know we are here...
  • We've got a handful of RE choices here in Ohio. I'm glad we got all of our questions answered too! There's no way I'd let the doc make decisions for us. He's been real good about that anyway. Never pressured me on the meds vs natural even from the begining etc.

    We've talked it over and over and over, poured over our finances this weekend and have come to a decision. WE ARE GONNA GO FOR THE IVF! :) It's the highest odds we can ask for and the safest bang for our buck! I'm sooo excited and nervous! Can't wait to get started especially after sitting out for so long. I've already been doing research on the whole process. I'm an information junkie!!!

    I think the partial IVF that you're talking about is your second/third try. They freeze the leftover embryos for later and it's MUCH cheaper to go your second round because they're not extracting anything...
  • Oh ok. Well I'm super excited for you guys! Do you have to pick a new donor? Or is your first choice from here available again?

    Well keep us posted!!!!!!!!!! When exactly do you start?
  • Of course. We've had bad luck with donors, sold out 3 different times so we're back to square one but it's ok.

    It kinda starts with my next day 3. That's when I'll start taking the pill (lupron) for 3 weeks to shut down my ovaries completely. They do that so all the eggs ripen at the same rate. Then I'll have 10 days of stimulation, probably follistim again. These will be double the dose that I took before. Trigger, then extract. Not sure if he'll have me transfer on day 3 or 6 yet. I'm not due to start for at least another week so we've got some time to plan and find another donor.

    Gettin' so excited! Finally, something to be happy about and excited for again!!!
  • That's awesome, and we are definitely praying for ya'll. Its way past time for good things to happen to you guys...

    FINGERS CROSSED!
  • Change of plans... no Lupron. They are diving right in with the injections! I meet with the nurses this week and am expecting my day 1 later this week too! This is gonna happen faster than I thought! Woo hoo! Not sure I could be patient enough to wait any longer anyway... Vials shipping tomorrow and we're on our way!!! Yay!
  • Well, honestly....with all the trouble you've had, I would want to be as aggressive as possble. We are so excited for you!
  • Fo real!!!! LOL Meet with the nurses tomorrow for strategy talk, CAN'T WAIT. I was trying to figure out (as I do every time) what my due date would be if I got preg with this cycle. The calculator puts me right in the middle of december, yay christmas baby!!! OR if it's twins they calculate 3 weeks sooner, yay thanksgiving babies!!!! LOL I really need all the positive mo-jo I can muster...

    This will work this time, this will work this time, this will work this time!!!!!!!!!
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